War Room - Part 1 - The RULES of War

We need to talk about War, and warring with your neighbors in Saga.

Firstly. You know you want to fight. Playing Saga to collect lumber is, well, - lame.

Yes the missions are great, yes, but seriously you are here to fight.

First step is admitting it. Next is learning how to do it.

1. PvP is Op-In. This means you have to CHOOSE to fight. You can't be raided unless you go wilderness, you can't go wilderness unless you build a Keep. You can't fight 1v1 unless you start a battle. If you aren't ready to fight then don't go wilderness. The ONLY thing someone can do for you is espionage you. And there is a limit on how many times a day they can espionage you.



2. If you BUILD a wilderness, expect to be raided. However, the raids aren't that bad really.



3. If you store alot of mana shards, then it becomes PROFITABLE to raid you. Raiding cost 5 shards and 1500 god favor. So a level 35 with a full tank of god favor can raid about 4 times without doing quests or donating to the church. They have to make more then 5 shards and about 500 resources to make the raid perceived as SUCCESSFUL.



4. If you make raiding unsuccessful for the raider you will limit the amount of times they WANT to raid you. They will continue to raid you ONLY if they have a personal issue with you. (ie they hate you and want to grief you.)

So how do you make raiding unsuccessful for the raider?

1. Firstly. Spend your shards. Don't hoard them, spend them on enchants.


2. Second. Make sure to have at least 10 mid-level troop units in your territories OR 20 level 1 common armies. If you have decent level troops, level 6+, you can get by with 10 full units. If you use commons, you will want many waves. Troops come out at 5 units at a time. Destroying 5 units takes about 30secs to 1min. Any of those units can interrupt a cap. You want to busy the raider for 5 mins, thus 4 waves of 5 units will work most of the time.


3. You do not NEED to repair anything but lumber/gold/ore/farms. House/mana mines/shrines/etc do not affect your daily production. Let them burn! Your normal build/repair will eventually fix them to full.


4. Bless your hurt building, its CHEAP.

I wanted to go through a couple of PvP definitions:

Going to War Footing:

Going to "war footing" is a concept that is pretty logical, and I figure, lets coin a phrase for it.

• War Footing is where you start a war, and fighting the war is most of your time spend. This involves taking most of your troops out of your main army, and sticking it into your territories. If you raid or level, you move them back into your army, then stick them on defense while you are offline. This also involves increasing your police, and perhaps even dumping your spare production on friends or alts.


• You want to go to war footing when you are getting raided, or when you decide to espionage the entire server.

An even more EXTREME tactic is to delete everything in your territory but mana mines and watchtowers. I will tell you this is VERY unprofitable for the attacker.

Shock Ryder is the first to do it, we now coin it the "Shock Ryder Defense Tactic".

Don't QQ:

QQ is the universal sign for crying or whining. This is QQ:

from - http://sagathoughts.blogspot.com/2008/07/ancestral-not-getting-point.html

I know you might be tempting to QQ, but here's why you don't do it.

1. It shows that PvP made you cry. Seriously why cry about PvP, its supposed to be fun?


2. It makes a pro PvP'r smile.


3. It may get you featured on a Internet website.


4. You won't intimidate a pro PvPr. We get QQd every day. It almost clique


5. The best response to a raid is a raid.


6. See above. QQing can make it personal for the raider. He likes to smile so he raids you to profit on your QQ.

Don't Nut-Cup:

Nutcupping is a PvP term that is somewhat adult in context. If you can't handle the terminology, please close the blog.



Nutcupping is defined as when you need someone else to hold your nuts while you have to urinate. In PvP its where you need a bunch of friends to help you fight someone 1v1.



If you nutcup, then you are admitting that you CAN NOT stand by yourself. You have to hide behind friends. You are afraid to stand by yourself:

"A Knight's Tale Movie Quotes (2001)
You have been weighed, you have been measured, and you have been found wanting. In what world could you possibly beat me?"

So how do I stop Nut-Cupping?

So if you are fighting two people, you fight with a friend. You fight a guild, you bring a guild. Zerging is in just bad taste. First how hard is it to kill with a mob behind you. Second can you even count that as victory?



Let me leave with a final case-study reference. Illian raided a guy yesterday that sparked some drama. Guy wants to quit, alot of QQ. Click for a quick read https://www.playsaga.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6714